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2024 Criminal TrialtranscripttranscriptPanel 4 Voir Dire — Qualifications, Witness Familiarity, Language, and Ability to Serve - Day 2: Jury Selection - 2024 Criminal TrialVenire Panel 4 was sworn and screened for familiarity, qualifications, and hardships. Nine jurors were released for language-related cause; private questioning of another juror remained pending.
William R. JayDave Cacciatore, Jr.Kevin Timothy BeckTony HendersonJames Sylivan OwensShelbie AndrewsBilly LaneMichael KraynickMR. JAYMR. OWENSMR. HENDERSONMR. BECKTHE COURTCourt StaffCourt ClerkJurorMR. CACCIATOREMS. ANDREWSMR. LANEproceduralsidebarvoir_dire
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Jury selection continued with Venire Panels 3 and 4, covering qualifications, hardships, and prior publicity. The court ruled on cause challenges, including language-related excusals and two publicity-related strikes, while some individual follow-ups had no recorded disposition.
Venire Panel 4: Oath, Orientation, and Initial Familiarity Screening
ProceduralProc.Venire Panel 4: Oath, Orientation, and Initial Familiarity Screening

MR. JAY: William Jay for the State.

MR. OWENS: James Owens for the defense.

MR. HENDERSON: Tony Henderson, Sarah Boone.

MR. BECK: Kevin Beck on behalf of Sarah Boone, Your Honor.

THE COURT: Ms. Boone is seated at counsels' table, the same clothing from this morning.

We have another panel of 50. We had a little hiccup with the wrong information sheets being shot to us, but I believe that's been remedied now.

State, are we ready to bring in our panel?

MR. JAY: Yes, Your Honor.

THE COURT: Defense?

MR. HENDERSON: Yes, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right. Let's stand and bring in our panel. Thank you.

(Venire Panel 4 enters.)

COURT STAFF: All jurors present.

THE COURT: Thank you. The parties can be seated.

COURT CLERK: Will everyone please stand and raise your right hands to be sworn, please.

(Venire Panel 4 sworn at 2:04 p.m.)

JUROR: Yes.

COURT CLERK: Thank you. You may be seated.

THE COURT: Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Courtroom 12-Alpha of the Orange County Courthouse in the circuit criminal division here in Orange County. My name is Judge Michael Kraynick and I will be the presiding judge in the case of the State of Florida vs. Sarah Boone.

Before we get started, I wanted to take the opportunity to introduce everyone in the courtroom to you today. To my right, your left, is my clerk, Mary McCree. Her job is to assist handling all the evidence that's presented during the trial and handling other matters to make sure that we have an efficient trial in this case. And that will include maybe printing out documents, handing me notes, answering the telephone, typing on her computer. Her job is to ensure that we have an orderly and efficient trial in this case.

Some of the other persons in our courtroom today you've already met, and those are our courtroom deputies. Today we have Officer Bruce, Officer Bourda, Officer Jones, Officer Jenkins, Officer Olivera, and Officer Binano [ph]. They are my eyes and ears here in the courtroom. If you have any concerns regarding your safety or any other questions that you may have, please address those with the deputies and they will bring them to me. I will do my best to answer your questions or address your safety concerns.

State, if you could, please introduce yourselves to our panel.

MR. CACCIATORE: Good afternoon. I'm Assistant State Attorney Dave Cacciatore.

MR. JAY: William Jay, Assistant State Attorney.

THE COURT: And, defense, if you could please introduce yourself and your client.

MR. OWENS: Good afternoon. My name is James Owens, and this is my client, Sarah Boone.

MR. HENDERSON: Good afternoon. My name is Tony Henderson, and I'm cocounsel.

MR. BECK: Good morning. I'm Kevin Beck. I'm cocounsel also.

MS. ANDREWS: Hello. I'm Shelbie Andrews, and I'm a jury selection and trial consultant.

MR. LANE: Billy Lane, private investigator.

THE COURT: Thank you-all. You can be seated.

Last, but certainly not least, I want to introduce to you the hardest working person here in the courtroom. No, it's not going to be the lawyers. I promise you they all are going to work very, very hard. It's not going to be the Court. The Court is also going to be prepared and work very hard as well. It's the lady seated right in front and center of all of you, Ms. Breean Crisp, Madam Court Reporter.

Her job is so hard because she's got to write down everything that everybody says, and I've got a really bad habit of speaking way too fast. I have a note right in front of me that says "slow down" in bold and underlined.

So -- now, when we're normally speaking with our friends or our family members or loved ones, sometimes we'll do, like, head nods or shake our head no or go uh-huhs or "sure" when we mean yes or "okay" when we mean no. I'm going to ask you, as best as possible, to avoid doing that.

Now, if you do, you're not going to get in trouble, just Madam Court Reporter or myself may ask you to clarify, Was that a yes or was that a no? And we're not doing it to make you uncomfortable or blow up your spot or call you out. We're simply doing that so that we can have a clear and efficient record of everything that everybody said here today.

Is everybody on board with following those instructions? Raise your paddles if you are.

All right. I thank you. The record will reflect all paddles have been raised.

If you can do that, it's going to make Madam Court Reporter's job a little bit easier when it comes to typing down everything that everybody says.

Next, I want you to look around yourselves; right, left, front, and center. Is there anyone that's seated around you or near you that you may recognize? If so, go ahead and raise your paddles at this time.

All right. Juror No. 21 [sic], who might you recognize? Or 31. I apologize. Thank you, ma'am.

JUROR: I recognize the defendant.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. I haven't gotten there yet. I appreciate that.

JUROR: Sorry.

THE COURT: Thank you so much for letting me know. Thank you.

Anyone else around you, recognize anyone?

JUROR: I --

THE COURT: Can you raise that paddle that for me, sir?

JUROR: Yeah.

THE COURT: Juror No. 17, yes, sir?

JUROR: Yeah. I was just going to say the same thing she said.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

Anyone else recognize anyone seated around you?

37?

JUROR: No English.

THE COURT: No hablo Ingles? (Speaking Spanish.)

Okay. Can the parties approach for a moment?

sidebarsidebarMorning Statements and Juror 37 Excusal

(At the bench.)

MR. OWENS: Shelbie gave me this.

THE COURT: 1I'11 address it.

Any problem with the same statements that I gave this morning?

MR. JAY: No, sir.

THE COURT: Defense, is that acceptable?

THE COURT: Do we want to go ahead and excuse Juror No. 37?

MR. JAY: For cause.

THE COURT: All right. So stipulated. Thank you.

Voir DireVoir DireVenire Panel 4: Qualification and Witness-Familiarity Screening

(In open court.)

THE COURT: Juror No. 37, sir, you're excused. Leave your paddle, okay?

JUROR: I have the same.

THE COURT: Okay. Hang on one second. I'm going to get to English concerns in just a moment, okay? I promise. I promise you, I've got a couple other things I've got to go through first. Thank you for your patience.

(Venire Badge 548 exited.)

THE COURT: State, if you could, could you please read the list of proposed witnesses that you may call in this case?

MR. CACCIATORE: Potential witnesses we have in this case are: Jennifer Albrecht of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, John Alden of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, a Vincent Battaglia of Bloomfield, New Jersey, Carolina Benito of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Brian Boone of Gainesville, Florida, Jeffery Brown of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Kenneth Davis of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Lisa Deleon of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Rachell Fenner, formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Natosha Fisher, the Orange County Department of Corrections, Lanya Herr of the -- formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Devin Jamro of Orlando, Florida, Chelsey Koepsell of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Vincent Lebron of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Santia Leroy, formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Scott Lowen of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, John Martinez of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Meredith McCaskill of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Brandon Moats of Winter Park, Florida, Abraham Moreno of Oviedo, Florida, Joseph O'Neil of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Daniel Pekoske, formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Jessica Ramirez-Delgado of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Shanice Robinson, formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Kayla Rodriguez of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Melissa Roughgarden of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Melissa Sexton of Altamonte Springs, Florida, Victoria Shelton, formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Patrick Strawn of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Nathaniel Taylor of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Juan Torres of Orlando, Florida, Junella Uadan of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Douglas Vest, formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Stephanie Viera of the Orange County Fire Department, Dr. Tonia Werner of Gainesville, Florida, Joan Williams of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Matthew Williams of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Kelly Wood of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, Anthony Zito, formerly of the Orange County Sheriff's Office, and Dr. Sara Zydowicz of the District Nine Medical Examiner's Office.

THE COURT: Please raise your paddles if you recognize the names of any of the State's potential witnesses.

The Court sees no paddles.

Defense, if you could please read the list of witnesses, if you decide to put on a case.

MR. OWENS: Many of these names are the same. The first 20 are all with the Orange County Sheriff's Office: Chelsey Koepsell, Scott Lowen, Lisa Deleon, Melissa Roughgarden, Nathaniel Taylor, John Martinez, Kelly Wood, Jessica Ramirez-Delgado, Anthony Zito, Patrick Strawn, Junella Uadan, John Alden, Kenneth Davis, Joseph O'Neil, Joan Williams, Manny Lopez, Kayla Rodriguez, Kenneth Dale, Vincent Lebron, Matthew Williams.

Two people with FDLE, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement: Carolina Benito, Meredith McCaskill.

Dr. Sara Zydowicz. She's the medical examiner. And then Dr. Julie Harper, Dr. Michael Brannon, Dr. Tonia Werner. With the Fire Department of Orange County, Stephanie Viera. Brian Boone, Vincent Battaglia, Brandon Moats, Juan Torres, Abraham Moreno, Melissa Sexton, Maria Fernanda-Galipoli, Phillip Paulson, Tyler Paulson, Devin Jamro, Shanice Robinson, Rachell Fenner, Victoria Shelton, Jean Harris, Marcus Bullock, Janice Burns, Dan Burns, Pearl Walker, Debra Johnson. And then several custodian of records for AdventHealth Winter Park, Orlando Rollins, Altamonte, Aspire Health. Custodian of records from the Orange County Sheriff's Office, the county jail, the Clerk of the Court, and the Family Law Division Clerk of the Court.

THE COURT: Raise your paddles if you recognize the names of any of the witnesses that the defense may call in this case.

All right. The Court sees no paddles.

Some of you may have noticed that there is a camera in the courtroom here today. I want to assure you that none of you are being recorded. The camera will always be pointing into the well area, either on the attorneys or on the Court.

Now, what's being said today is being recorded by Madam Court Reporter and it may be picked up by the camera. The lawyers, nor myself will ever refer to you by your given name. You'll be referred to by the paddle and the seat that you're seated in. I don't want that to change how you're going to operate. Your identity will remain safe and secret. No one is going to know who you are. The camera is not going to pan any way to where you are.

Now, where we are today is in jury selection, specifically jury selection in a criminal case. And the purpose today is to pick a fair and impartial jury for both the State and the defense. Now, the Court, the State, and the defense are going to be asking you questions to get to know you a little bit over and above what's in the jury questionnaires that we've been provided. We know a little bit about you. And each and every one of you may have certain beliefs or certain things that you hold near and dear. None of us are going to ask you to change those beliefs. If you have those thoughts and those beliefs, hold on to them, don't change them. The question is, are you going to be able to set aside those beliefs, focus on what's presented here in the courtroom, and fairly and impartially weigh the evidence? Is everybody on board with that? If you are, please raise your paddles at this time.

The record will reflect that paddles have been raised by all jurors.

Now, in order to get to know you a little bit, we're going to have to ask you some questions. And we're not trying to pry. Again, we're just trying to get to know you and figure out what you're about a little bit more to make sure that we can get that fair and impartial jury. So we're going to begin kind of the interactive portion of our program this afternoon, and I preface this with every question that I will ask you. There's no wrong answer. There's no wrong answer to any question. If that's what you think, then you can think it. That's fine.

And with that, the first question for the group is, what's a person's biggest fear? And, again, there are no wrong answers. Anybody want to take a jump at that?

Juror No. 20, yes, sir?

JUROR: God.

THE COURT: Certainly ranks up there.

Any other guesses? I saw somebody in the back left corner. No. 29, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: Going to jail.

THE COURT: Okay. Sure, absolutely.

46?

JUROR: Dying.

THE COURT: There's one might be worse than that.

No. 1?

JUROR: Fear.

THE COURT: What was that?

JUROR: Fear.

THE COURT: Fear? Sure. We're all doing it right now.

JUROR: Spiders.

THE COURT: Spiders? You sound like my 6-year-old.

JUROR: They're scary.

JUROR: Speaking in front of a group of strangers.

THE COURT: Nailed it, public speaking. Surveys show us and tell us that speaking in public is actually scarier than death, taking the next great adventure to wherever it leads us at the end of this time that we have here. And the reason I tell you-all that is, we're going to ask you some questions and the only thing that I ask of you is that you answer those questions completely, truthfully, and honestly. If we can do that, we're going to make sure that we're getting that fair and impartial jury in this case. Raise your paddles if you're on board with doing that for me this afternoon.

All right. The record will reflect all paddles have been raised.

Now, before we get into asking you some more questions, I have an instruction that I have to read to you from the Florida Supreme Court: In order to have a fair and lawful trial, there are rules that all jurors must follow. A basic rule is that jurors must decide the case only on the evidence presented in the courtroom. You must not communicate with anyone, including friends and family members, about this case, the people and places involved, or your jury service. You must not disclose your thoughts about this case or ask for advice on how to decide this case.

I want to stress that this rule means you must not use electronic devices or cell phones to communicate about this case, including tweeting, texting, blogging, e-mailing, posting information on a website or chat room, or any other means at all. Do not send or accept any messages to or from anyone about this case or your jury service. In addition, your cell phone or electronic device must be turned completely off while you are in the courtroom.

You must not do any research or look up any words, names, or anything else that may have anything to do with this case. This includes reading newspapers, watching television, or using a computer, cell phone, the internet, any electronic device, or any other means at all to get information related to this case or the people and places involved in this case. This applies whether you are in the courthouse, at home, or anywhere else. All of us are depending upon you to follow these rules so that there will be a fair and lawful resolution to this case.

Unlike questions that you will be allowed to ask in court, which will be answered in court in the presence of the judge and the parties, if you investigate, research, or make inguiries on your own outside of the courtroom, the trial judge has no way to assure they are proper and relevant to the case. The parties, likewise, have no opportunity to dispute the accuracy of what you find or to provide rebuttal evidence to it. That is contrary to our judicial system which assures every party the right to ask questions about and rebut the evidence being considered against it and to present argument with respect to that evidence.

Non-court inquiries and investigations unfairly and improperly prevent the parties from having that opportunity our judicial system promises. Any juror who violates these restrictions jeopardizes the fairness of these proceedings and a mistrial could result, which would require the entire trial process to start over. A mistrial is a tremendous expense and inconvenience to the parties, the Court, and the taxpayers. If you violate these rules, you may be held in contempt of court and face sanctions, such as serving time in jail, paying a fine, or both.

If you become aware of any violations of these instructions or any other instruction I give in this case, you must tell me by giving a note to the court deputy.

Raise your paddles if you agree to follow these rules.

Thank you very much. The record will reflect all paddles have been raised.

Juror No. 20, yes, sir?

JUROR: Do we have to turn the phones off now?

THE COURT: Yes, sir. All phones need to be turned off.

Juror No. 33, yes?

JUROR: No English.

THE COURT: Okay. Juror No. 26?

JUROR: No English. I don't understand.

THE COURT: All right. Juror No. 47?

JUROR: No English.

THE COURT: Hang on, I've got to make notes here.

Who was -- Juror No. 33, was that you?

JUROR: (Nods head.)

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Juror No. 47?

JUROR: No English.

THE COURT: Juror No. 35?

JUROR: No fluent.

THE COURT: Okay. Juror No. 23?

JUROR: I have issue. I have issue.

THE COURT: Yes, sir. What's the issue?

JUROR: I can share it privately.

THE COURT: Okay. Was it, like, something you'd address in private?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir. I'll make a note to come back to you on that. Thank you.

Juror No. 27?

JUROR: I know -- I know of the defendant as well.

THE COURT: Thank you for letting me know that, ma'am. I appreciate it.

Juror No. 32, yes?

JUROR: No English.

THE COURT: Okay. All right.

One of the first question I have is your ability to serve in this case. Raise your paddles -- again, and if you have not, raise your paddles -- if you speak little to no English or have concerns on your ability to speak and understand English.

Okay. I've got more now. Okay. Let me start over here on my left. Juror No. 33. Juror No. 32, yes, ma'am? Juror No. 32, can you understand me?

(Prospective Juror interpreting for Venire Badge 149.)

JUROR: A little bit.

THE COURT: Okay. On a scale of one to ten, how well can you understand me?

JUROR: Five.

THE COURT: Okay. Juror No. 41?

JUROR: Same thing, English is not my first language.

THE COURT: What's your first language, ma'am?

JUROR: Portuguese.

THE COURT: Okay. On a scale of one to ten, how well would you say that you can read and understand English?

JUROR: Eight.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Anyone else, concerns over the English language here on my left, raise those paddles.

No. 4, yes, sir?

JUROR: No Ingles. Nothing.

THE COURT: None at all?

JUROR: (Shakes head.)

JUROR: (Shakes head.)

THE COURT: Okay. Over here on my right, concerns on reading and understanding English?

23, but you wanted to talk to me in private, sir, correct?

JUROR: Yes, yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

25?

JUROR: I understand (unintelligible).

THE COURT: Say that one more time.

JUROR: I understand English

(unintelligible).

THE COURT: And on a scale of one to ten, how well would you say you can understand English?

JUROR: Just if you speak, I can hear and I'll listen.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you, ma'am.

26, I already have you.

47, I do not have you. Thank you.

And, 35, I already have you. Thank you very much.

All right. Can the parties approach for a moment?

sidebarsidebarLanguage-Based Cause Challenges for Prospective Jurors

(At the bench.)

THE COURT: I want to make sure I didn't miss anybody. I have 33, 26, 45, 35, 25, 32, 41, 4, and 47, and 23 wanted to address something in private.

MR. JAY: Sorry, that's all over the place. It's not numerical.

MR. CACCIATORE: Did you say 25 and 26?

THE COURT: I wish my notes were numerical, Mr. Jay.

T'll start as best as I can from the beginning: 4, 23, 25, 26, 33, 32, forgive me, 35, 41, 45, and 47.

MR. HENDERSON: How about 27?

MR. CACCIATORE: Said recognized the defendant.

THE COURT: Yeah, 27 recognized the defendant. I'm only addressing English issues right now.

MR. HENDERSON: I have English by 27, unless I missed it.

THE COURT: I don't think she had an issue with English. She said she recognized the defendant.

MR. JAY: And was 23 language or private issue?

THE COURT: 23 is a private issue. He has not identified -- that's why I have not -- I'm not including him in that.

Any positions with regard to those persons at this time?

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

MR. JAY: So, numerically, is it 4, 25, 26, 33 --

THE COURT: 32. 32, then 33, then 35, 41, 45, 47.

MR. JAY: State agrees to all those as language for cause challenges.

THE COURT: Okay. Defense?

THE COURT: All right. I'll ask them to return back. Thank you both.

Voir DireVoir DireVenire Panel 4: Qualification and Witness-Familiarity Screening

(In open court.)

THE COURT: All right. Thank you for your patience. Those of you who are seated in Seats 4, 25, 26, 32, 33, 35, 41, 45, and 47, you-all are released. You can head back down to the first floor of Jury Services and they'll give you any other additional instructions. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate you. Please leave your paddles in the seats where you were. Thank you.

(Above-mentioned venirepersons exited.)

THE COURT: Anyone else, concerns over the English language, reading and understanding it, raise those paddles, please.

The court sees -- yes, sir, No. 23? Do you have a concern with speaking English?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. And is that something you still want to address in private, sir?

JUROR: Exactly.

THE COURT: Okay. I've got a couple other things to go through, sir, but I promise I'll come back to you. I have a note, okay?

JUROR: Okay.

THE COURT: Thank you, sir.

IT also need to confirm another basis for eligibility. As you sit here today, if you are not an Orange County resident, please raise your paddles.

The Court sees no paddles.

Raise your paddles if you've ever been convicted of a felony in any state or federal court and have not had your civil rights restored. If that applies to you, please raise your paddles.

The Court sees no paddles.

I want to take a moment and thank you-all for being here. Last week our state got ravaged by Hurricane Milton and here in Central Florida we got pretty lucky. I hope that your effects, your family, and your loved ones were unaffected by it.

I know that when you got that letter for jury service, I'm sure you-all were jumping for joy when you opened up your mailbox to come down here, but in all seriousness, I want to take a moment and thank you for your service.

The Founding Fathers experienced tyranny under the hands of the King of England, and one example of such tyranny was depriving Americans of the rights to trial by jury. In 1774, Founding Father John Adams said that representative government and the right to trial by jury are the heart and lungs of liberty, and without those, we have no fortifications against being ridden like horses, fleeced like sheep, worked like cattle, and fed and clothed like swine and hounds.

The right to jury trial in all criminal cases is preserved by the United States Constitution and our judicial system rests on this bedrock principle. And without your sacrifice and your time, the wheels of justice would simply come to a screeching halt. So on behalf of myself, the State, and the defense and Ms. Boone, we thank you for your sacrifice and your service in this matter.

Now, I say all that to preface with the thing that I'm going to ask next, and it's a big ask. We anticipate this case lasting approximately two and a half weeks, up to or before Friday, November the lst. I'd rather tell you it's going to last longer than tell you it will be shorter and ask you to come back, so I'm giving you the worst case scenario that it's going to be two and a half weeks.

Now, today is a little bit different. I know you-all were here very, very early for jury duty and I asked you to come up this afternoon, so today is a little bit different. But every other day hereafter, if you're asked to serve on our jury, we start at 9:00 and we end at 5:00. We take an hour and a half lunch break between 12:00 and 12:30, so it'll be 12:00 to 1:30 or 12:30 to 2:00, depending on what's happening that morning with the trial. We also have a regularly scheduled break in the morning and the afternoon. All of those things together I call my regularly scheduled breaks.

Now, there may be moments, and you've already seen, where I have to discuss matters with counsel outside of your hearing. I cannot tell you how long those are going to take place, when they're going to take place, or how often they're going to take place, but what I can promise you is that myself and the attorneys will endeavor to move as quickly and as efficiently as possible to address whatever it is that we're addressing at that time so as not to waste any of your time.

The only other day that would be different is deliberations, and that will be after the State has concluded its case, the defense has concluded its case, if it chooses to put one on, and after the State has concluded its rebuttal case, if it intends to offer one. The Court will then instruct you on the law to be applied in this case and then both the State and the defense will have an opportunity to present their closing arguments. After that, you'll be given some final instructions and be escorted into the jury room to begin your deliberations where you'll weed through and sift through the evidence that's been presented, weigh it, follow the law that I give you, and render a lawful verdict.

Now, during that process, I cannot cap or limit the amount of time that you have. I cannot tell you you have ten hours. I cannot tell you that you have ten minutes. It will be up to you as a member of our jury to work through all those things, the evidence and the law, to come to that conclusion.

If we go after 5 p.m., we cannot work later than 9:00. We are not allowed to. If you cannot come to a decision by 9:00 -- and I'm not asking you to rush to one. If you can't, we just have to come back the next day and continue our deliberations at that point in time. So understanding the schedule, 9:00 to 5:00, unless we're in deliberations, from now up until November the lst, does anyone have any conflicts or concerns regarding that schedule? If you do, please raise your paddles at this time. Raise them high for me, if you could. Thank you.

I'm going to start over here on my left. First row, Juror 3, I saw you up there and then you put it down. There's concern, sir?

JUROR: Work.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

2 --

JUROR: Work.

THE COURT: -- 3, 5 --

JUROR: Work and travel.

THE COURT: I'm going to go through -- I'm just reading them out so that everybody knows who it is. I'm going to address each and every one of you, I promise.

Juror No. 7, thank you.

All right. First row, put everything down. Let me see second row. Hold them up high for me. 15, 16, 17, and 21. Thank you very much.

Third row, hold them up high for me. 31 and 34.

Last row, 43 and 44. Oh, 42. Thank you very much.

Anyone else here on my left, concerns over that schedule, please raise your paddles.

Okay. Seeing no paddles. Thank you.

Moving to my right, first row? 8, 9, 12, 13, and 14. Thank you-all. You can put those down.

Moving to the second row? 23, 24, 27, and 28. Thank you very much.

Third row? 36, 38, and 40. Thank you.

Last row, 46.

Okay. Thank you-all for letting me know that. I'm going to go through some categories of hardships which may apply to you. We're going to go through several different categories and at the end I have the all-encompassing other. Please raise your paddle for every category that you believe that you fall into. If you fall into more than one, that's fine, raise your paddle for each and every one of them. And when I'm done, I'll let you know that we're moving into the other category. If there's something that affects or conflicts with your ability to serve as a juror in this case and it wasn't addressed in any of the hardship categories, please let me know when we get to the other category, okay?

The first hardship is a financial hardship. A financial hardship means that your employer does not pay for your jury service, and without being paid for the time that you'll be serving as a juror in this case, you would not be able to meet your ordinary household bills. If that applies to you, please raise your paddles at this time.

Okay. Start over here on my left: 3, 7, 16, 17, 21, 42, 43, and 44. Anyone else here on my left who I didn't call?

All right. The Court sees no other paddles. Thank you.

Moving over here to my right. 8, 9, 24, 27, 38, 39, and 40. Okay. Thank you.

Anyone else here on my right, financial hardship, raise those paddles. The Court sees no paddles.

Start back over here on my left. Juror in Seat No. 3, good afternoon, sir. What do you do for a living?

JUROR: Warehouse.

JUROR: The beer warehouse.

THE COURT: All right. And does your employer pay for your jury service?

JUROR: I don't know. I think no.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. And if you were to serve on this jury, sir, could you be able to meet your household expenses?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

Juror in Seat No. 7, good afternoon, sir. What do you do for a living?

JUROR: A graphic designer.

THE COURT: Okay. Do you work for yourself or for someone else?

JUROR: No. For AdventHealth.

THE COURT: Okay. Does Advent pay for your jury service, sir?

JUROR: I would have to be sure. I don't think they do, but I would have to be sure about that.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. If they don't, sir, and you were asked to serve as a juror in this case, would you be able to meet your household expenses?

JUROR: I definitely wouldn't be.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

16?

JUROR: I do concrete and wouldn't be able to pay. Plus, I just started my company because he doesn't pay shit. Oh, sorry.

THE COURT: Okay. So are you still working for him, Sir, or are you out on your own now?

JUROR: I still work for him three days out of the week. Then I have the -- as -- like I said, I started my company doing concrete, and I actually -- I was supposed to be present today and I had to cancel everything because of the service.

THE COURT: Okay. And you certainly can't pay yourself if you're not working?

JUROR: Yeah, no. I have to be present on the job to meet the superintendents.

THE COURT: Commercial or residential, sir?

JUROR: It's commercial and residential.

THE COURT: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

Juror No. 17, yes, sir?

JUROR: I own and operate a construction company. I'm the sole employee of my company, and just it'd probably -- you know, it'd be very bad if I were to have to take this case on for two weeks.

THE COURT: Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.

Juror No. 21, yes, sir? What do you do for a living?

JUROR: I'm a server.

JUROR: I just -- I don't know if my employer pays. And then on top of that, I need tips as well for everything.

THE COURT: And if you were not getting those tips, sir, or getting your hourly rate, would you be able to meet those household expenses?

JUROR: I would not, no.

THE COURT: Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

42?

JUROR: I'm a psychologist.

JUROR: But I can do my own schedule, but I need to talk, you know, in the company, so -- or to know the scheduling here so I can accommodate my patients.

THE COURT: And do you know if your employer pays you for your time?

JUROR: No, I don't think so.

THE COURT: So if you were asked to serve as a juror, could you still meet your household expenses?

JUROR: Exactly.

THE COURT: You could or could not?

JUROR: Sorry?

THE COURT: Could you pay your household bills if you had to serve for two and a half weeks?

JUROR: Yes, Your Honor, uh-huh.

THE COURT: I can't hear you, ma'am. I'm sorry.

JUROR: I'm sorry. Yes, I can pay my bills.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you. We may have some follow-up with you.

JUROR: Okay.

THE COURT: 43, yes, sir?

JUROR: I am an assistant manager at a retail store. I am not 100 percent sure on if they can pay me for jury duty.

THE COURT: Okay. And if you were unable to serve in that role with your employer for the next two and a half weeks, would that impact your ability to pay your household expenses?

JUROR: Yes, sir.

(Venire Badge 337 entered.)

JUROR: Sorry.

THE COURT: That's okay. I think that's Juror No. 35.

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. How can I help you, ma'am?

JUROR: They don't find me.

COURT CLERK: I e-mailed them. They know she's excused.

THE COURT: They know you've been excused, ma'am.

JUROR: Okay.

THE COURT: You can go back to the first floor and they'll tell you where to go. Thank you.

(Venire Badge 337 exited.)

THE COURT: All right. Juror No. 43, let me ask my question again for you, sir.

JUROR: No worries.

THE COURT: If you were not able to serve in that capacity as an assistant manager, would you be able to meet your ordinary household expenses?

JUROR: No, sir.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

44, what do you do for a living, sir?

JUROR: I'm a glazer. I have my own company, but it's just me and a helper.

THE COURT: My next question is just you by yourself?

JUROR: Yeah.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you, sir. And if you can't work, obviously, that could impact you?

JUROR: I'm already a week out.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it.

Anyone else, financial hardships on my left, raise those paddles.

All right. The court sees none.

Moving to my right, Juror in Seat No. 8, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: Laid off last week. Only income in the home.

THE COURT: Okay. My apologies, matam. You have my sympathies. Here's hoping you can find something soon.

Juror No. 9, what do you do for a living, sir?

JUROR: I'm a self-employed tax accountant.

THE COURT: Okay. You work for yourself?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: And if you're not working, you're not getting paid?

JUROR: Correct.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

24?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Yes, sir? What do you do fora living?

JUROR: I work at a hospital.

THE COURT: Which one?

JUROR: HCA, Lake Monroe.

THE COURT: Okay. Do they pay for your jury service?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: In what capacity do you work for the hospital?

JUROR: I'm a nurse's aide.

THE COURT: And, sir, if you were not working as a nurse's aide for the next two and a half weeks, could you meet your household expenses?

JUROR: No, Your Honor.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, sir.

27, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: I'm a manager at a restaurant, and I am the only one that pays the bills, so it would really affect me.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. There's no one else who could take -- no one else who could cover that for you?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate it.

38?

JUROR: I'm diesel mechanic. My company only pays one day today, possibly three that I remember a long time ago, because I did jury duty also.

THE COURT: All right. So if you had to serve the next two weeks, sir, could you meet your household expenses?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it.

39, yes, sir?

JUROR: I run a cleaning service and I'm the only one that does it, so it's going to affect me.

THE COURT: You work for yourself, sir?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Juror No. 40, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: I work for a pediatric home healthcare company and they do not pay for jury duty and I would not be able to meet my monthly bills.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate it.

Next, there's brand new legislation that came into effect in July for new mothers. You're excused from jury duty. If anyone has given birth within the last six months, if that applies to you, please raise your paddles.

The Court sees no paddles.

Next, I had the opportunity to review your questionnaires. Some of you have minor children under the age of 18, and I want to talk to you now about childcare issues. Some of you may be stay-at-home parents, may pick up and drop off your children from school or aftercare activities. If those are your responsibilities and there's no one else who could assist in those responsibilities, spouse, significant other, a loved one, a family member, and your childcare responsibilities would affect or impact your jury service, please raise your paddles at this time.

Other than 44 on my left, anyone else?

Okay. On my right, I have 24 and 27. Anyone else?

Okay. Juror No. 44, how many children do you have, sir?

JUROR: Two.

THE COURT: What are their ages?

JUROR: 12 and 9.

THE COURT: Okay. Do you take them to and from school?

JUROR: I do.

THE COURT: Do they have extended day?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: You pick them up when the day ends?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: And is there anyone else who could assist with that?

JUROR: Some days, my wife, but not every day.

THE COURT: What's your wife do for a living, sir?

JUROR: She works for Orange County Public Schools.

THE COURT: All right. Same school?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you. All right, sir. Thank you very much.

24, yes, sir?

JUROR: Yes, Your Honor. I have three kids.

THE COURT: What are their ages?

JUROR: 9, 7, and 4 months.

THE COURT: You're almost in the same boat as me. I am 9, 6, and 2 years, so I feel your pain, sir.

Do you take them to -- well, is -- the 4-year-old not in school yet. Daycare?

JUROR: No. Four-month-old, she is in daycare, yes.

THE COURT: Oh, I'm sorry, four-month. The 9 and 7-year-old, are they both in school?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Who picks them up and takes them?

JUROR: So me and my wife work opposite days, and so when she's working, I take them to school and vice versa.

THE COURT: Got it. Okay. Is there anyone else who might be able to assist with that?

JUROR: No. We don't have family here.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

Juror No. 27, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: I have three grandkids that I babysit during the day. One grandson, and then the other two I pick up -- take them to school and pick up in the afternoon. And I also have a sick daughter at home that's not supposed to be left by herself, but I left her today.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. I have the next section about adult care, so she may fall under that as well.

JUROR: Okay.

THE COURT: And do you have anyone else who could assist with those three grandkids?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate it.

The next topic is adult care. Similar to childcare, maybe you're tasked with caring for an adult, a daughter or an elderly family member or elderly friend who needs round-the-clock or near round-the-clock care. Now, understanding our schedule, 9:00 to 5:00 for the next two and a half weeks, does anyone have those adult care responsibilities that would affect your jury service on those hours? If so, raise those paddles now.

Okay. 27. You already told me about your daughter. How old is she, ma'am?

JUROR: She's 47.

THE COURT: And there's -- similarly with the grandkids -- no one else who could assist with that?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: Thank you.

36, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: This isn't a long-term, but my 40-year-old daughter is getting ready to have a child next Thursday by C-section, and I am the primary care for her for the next two weeks -- from two weeks after she has the baby.

THE COURT: Is it a scheduled C-section?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: When is it scheduled for, ma'am?

JUROR: Thursday.

THE COURT: Next week, Thursday?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Is it here locally?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

Anyone else, adult care, raise those paddles, please.

The Court sees no paddles.

The next category is travel. Is there anyone who has any travel planned from now until November the lst, be it business or personal, that would interfere with the schedule we've talked about? If you've got travel, please raise your paddles at this time.

All right. On my left, I have 2, 5, and 31. And on my right, I have 40, 46, and 50.

Starting here to my left, Juror No. 2, good afternoon, sir. Where are you going?

JUROR: I'm going to Tampa.

THE COURT: Okay. When do you leave, sir?

JUROR: Friday morning.

THE COURT: Okay. And when do you return?

JUROR: Saturday afternoon.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. And is it business or pleasure, sir?

JUROR: Business.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Is it something that you've incurred any expenses for or anything?

JUROR: Yes. We sponsored a company -- or a customer golf tournament on Saturday and we have meetings on Friday.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

Juror in Seat No. 5, yes?

JUROR: I'm going to Palm Beach, and it's next Thursday and Friday, and it's for work and pleasure.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you.

Juror in Seat No. 31, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: My stepchildren live in Huntsville, Alabama, and we're scheduled to go on October 25th and stay for three or four days.

THE COURT: All right. And are you driving or flying, ma'am?

JUROR: Driving.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Anyone else on my left, travel?

The Court sees no paddles.

Moving to my right, 40. Juror in Seat 40, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: Going to Alabama for a friend's baby shower. Driving.

THE COURT: And when do you leave?

JUROR: On the 24th. Returning on the 28th.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Juror in Seat 46, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: I'm a flight attendant.

THE COURT: Okay. Do you know what your schedule is?

JUROR: Yeah. Starting tomorrow, I'm on reserve. And then I have a trip on the 21st for a three-day trip, and then back on reserve at the end of the month.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

Juror in Seat No. 50?

JUROR: I'm a flight attendant.

THE COURT: Oh, wow. Two of you-all. That's cool.

JUROR: But I can move my schedule. I'll be available.

THE COURT: Okay. So you don't have any vacations, it's just a matter of work?

JUROR: Correct.

THE COURT: Okay. Is it scheduled work or are you kind of in a reserve spot?

JUROR: No. My schedule, but I'll -- my schedule, but I'll -- I'll do it. I'll take care of it. Don't worry.

THE COURT: Okay. Is that going to impact you if you don't work?

JUROR: I don't mind. I mean, it's scheduled, so -- is it going to impact my income?

JUROR: Slightly, but I'll work it out.

THE COURT: Okay. All right, ma'am. I appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Let me ask a couple more questions about that. So if you were -- do you have your work schedule over the next two weeks? Do you know where you're supposed to be going?

JUROR: Not off the top of my head, but it's set in stone.

THE COURT: So if you're asked to serve on our jury in this case, is your mind going to be about where you're supposed to be flying --

JUROR: Not at all.

THE COURT: -- and take care of those persons --

JUROR: Nope, nope.

THE COURT: -- or here? It'll be here? Okay. Would you be able to fairly and impartially weigh any of the evidence --

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: -- presented in this case?

JUROR: I could.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, ma'am. I appreciate you. The lawyers may have some follow-up.

The next is any medical appointments. Does anyone have any medical appointments scheduled that would conflict with our schedule?

Let me start over here on my left. I see Jurors 1, 5, 20, 31, 43, and 44. Moving to my right, 24, 27, 36, 40, and 49.

I'm going to switch it up a little bit. I'm going to start over here on my right. Juror No. 24, yes, sir?

JUROR: I have a VA appointment on Wednesday of next week.

THE COURT: Is that a regularly scheduled appointment, sir, or is it something that was specially set?

JUROR: It's a chiropractor appointment.

THE COURT: All right. Is that something you regularly go to?

JUROR: No. This is an initial visit.

THE COURT: This is an initial visit?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Have you had any out-of-pocket expenses to set that up?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

Juror in Seat 27, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: I have a dentist appointment on the 30th.

THE COURT: Is it a routine cleaning or --

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: -- anything substantial?

JUROR: Yeah, a routine cleaning.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Seat 36?

JUROR: I have an ophthalmologist appointment for an issue I have with my left eye, and then my doctor's appointment, which I could change, but this one I need to go to next Tuesday.

THE COURT: Okay. Is it affecting your ability to see today?

JUROR: Well, it affects my ability to see every day.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. That's fair. Next time I'll be more precise with my questions. I apologize.

JUROR: It's not just today, it's every day.

THE COURT: All right. When is that appointment with the ophthalmologist?

JUROR: It's Tuesday.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, ma'am.

JUROR: I think it's 3-something.

THE COURT: Juror in Seat 40?

JUROR: Pulmonologist appointment.

THE COURT: And when is that?

JUROR: On the 23rd.

THE COURT: Like, a couple days right before you leave for Alabama?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

And 49?

JUROR: I have an appointment with my doctor to monitor medication, but it could probably be rescheduled. It's on the 31st.

THE COURT: Okay. With that appointment on monitoring your medication, is it one of those appointments where if you don't go, your script is not going to get refilled?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Is that going to impact you?

JUROR: I think she would be able to do a videoconference.

THE COURT: Okay. Telehealth kind of thing, maybe?

JUROR: Or reschedule. It's not huge.

THE COURT: Okay. If you had to reschedule that appointment and were asked to serve on our jury and it's the 31st and you're still here, is your mind going to be on that appointment or what's happening here in the courtroom?

JUROR: If I've been two and a half weeks ina trial, I think that's where my head will be.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. And would you be able to fairly and impartially weigh the evidence?

JUROR: Yes, sir.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, matam. I appreciate it. The lawyers may have some follow-up.

Does anyone have any medical conditions that you believe would impact your ability to serve as a juror in this case?

I know that I already heard from Juror No. 36 who's got the eye issue every day, not just today. And is there anyone who has such medical conditions that may affect that ability; height -- or, sorry, seeing, hearing, reading, or some medication that may make you sleepy in the afternoon, anything along those lines. If that applies to you, please raise your paddles at this time.

T'll start over here on my left. 1 andi17. Going back to my right. 23, yes, sir?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Still want to talk in private?

JUROR: Yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

31, we already spoke.

And 48. Juror No. 48, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: I have a mild hearing loss, and I can hear you fine. If people are talking, like, other side of the room, especially if there's any sort of accent, it may be difficult for me to understand completely.

THE COURT: Okay. All right.

JUROR: But I can hear you fine, and, you know -- but some of the people that were talking about needing to be excused, of course, if they don't understand English, all I heard was English, so I don't -- I don't know if that would be an issue at all.

THE COURT: Okay. On a scale of one to ten, ma'am, how well are you able to hear me right now?

JUROR: Nine. I mean...

JUROR: With the microphones, I mean, I can hear fine.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am. The lawyers may have some follow-up.

JUROR: Okay.

THE COURT: Moving back to my left, juror in Seat No. 1, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: I have medical issues that I go monthly to the doctor for, and it's a lot of medications I take. I've had issues, heart attack, et cetera.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, ma'am.

JUROR: And I have low blood sugar and things like that, so I need to lie down sometimes during the day when it gets too tiresome.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you, ma'am.

Juror in Seat 17?

JUROR: Oh, okay. Yeah, so I have a form of ADHD where I have, like, selective hearing, but T hear really well, I just only hear when I want to. I know, it's funny as hell, isn't it? But it's true. And, you know, I got it. I'm not medicated, so I daydream a lot and, you know, things lack. Same story, my kids can say my name 15 times and I won't even hear it. It's amazing.

THE COURT: Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. Thank you for letting us know. Remember, zero judgment here. I just want you-all to be honest, and I appreciate you.

So those are the most common categories of hardships that we've just gone through. Now I'm going to get to that all-encompassing other at this point in time. If there's another reason or another concern that you have which may conflict with your ability to serve in this case, go ahead and raise those paddles now and I'll hear from you.

Okay. Let me start over here on my left. Hold those paddles high for me so I can just make a note here. I've got 2, 5, 7, 15, 18, 29, 31, and 34. Thank you very much.

Moving over to my right. 9, 12, 24, and 28.

I'm going to start on my left. Juror in Seat No. 2, yes, sir?

JUROR: All right. I'm taking occupancy of a new office space hopefully at the end of this week. I've been POC on the whole thing, so starting Monday, I'm supposed to be coordinating an office move.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. And that's supposed to take place, what, this Friday?

JUROR: Yeah. Well -- yeah, they're supposed to be doing the permitting -- or final inspections on Thursday and Friday morning.

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, sir.

Juror in Seat No. 5, yes?

JUROR: When you asked us all if we had medical appointments or anything, you didn't come back and ask us the dates of our medical appointments, so I just wanted to tell you mine.

THE COURT: You are correct. I skipped out on 1, 5, 20, 31, 43, and 44, so ain't no time but the present to tackle that. I apologize.

Juror No. 5, since you brought that up, thank you, when is your appointment and what is it?

JUROR: It is on October 31st, and it's for a prescription refill that I cannot do via Teledoc. I have to go in to see the doctor every three months, and I've been waiting, like, a month to get this appointment.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

Juror No. 1, you also said that you may have some medical appointments coming up?

JUROR: I do. I go every three weeks. October 25th is my scheduled.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Juror in Seat No. 20, yes, sir?

JUROR: Everything can be rescheduled.

THE COURT: Okay. Is that going to impact you in any way?

JUROR: No.

THE COURT: All right. Is your mind going to be on those appointments or here?

JUROR: Wherever I am, my mind is in the moment.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Would you be out any sums of money or anything if you had to cancel those appointments?

JUROR: Thankful to God that the answer is no.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir. Appreciate that.

Juror in Seat No. 31?

JUROR: I'm having a crown replaced on the 23rd.

THE COURT: Are you in any pain right now?

JUROR: It's not great, but I'm cruising with a temporary for a while, so, you know...

THE COURT: All right. Thank you, ma'am.

43?

JUROR: I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow in regards to prescription dosage changes, so it could have an effect later on, especially if I do have to get more pills, for example, for the month to go on. It is one of those situations where it does affect when my refill is available or if I'm able to.

THE COURT: And does that have to be an in-person -- is that an in-person visit?

JUROR: Yes, yes.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

44?

JUROR: I have a medical procedure on the 25th, with prep on the 24th.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you, sir.

Anyone else, and I apologize, medical appointments that I missed?

All right. The record will reflect no paddles.

Moving back to the other category. No. 5, was that -- anything else?

JUROR: Yeah, that was my other.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

No. 7, yes, sir?

JUROR: Yes. So I work on a design team and we're, like, short out of a manager and senior designers. So we have a campaign coming up, and so far it's just, like, four people overall, but there's two people working on it. And in the next -- I think it's next week, I can't remember the date exactly, there's something we have to get done. So to be honest, if I'm here, my mind will be on that project, to be honest with that.

And then, also, I guess for bills, because I'm the one that pays, like, basically, the rent and all the bills there, so that's another concern too. So I just need to know, like, if they can -- if they actually do pay for this thing. But other than that, work is, like, an issue.

THE COURT: But even if they do pay you for two and a half weeks, is your mind still going to be on that project?

JUROR: Yeah, I'll be honest. Yeah, I'll think about the job a lot, so...

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

Juror in Seat No. 15, yes, ma'am?

JUROR: Yes. So I'm not sure about the schedule with my job and I haven't been able to touch base with my manager about it. I don't have his phone number or anything, so I'm not sure how they sit with the schedule being two and a half weeks. Also, I'm not sure if I will be paid for it or not. Also, I would say it's the impartiality on my end as well.

THE COURT: Impartiality in what way?

JUROR: In the case. Because I've already seen some about it and I'm not sure if -- you know, which way I lean on it and if I'd be able to even lean a certain way.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

JUROR: Yeah.

THE COURT: We may have some follow-up with you in a little bit. Thank you.

Juror in Seat 18, yes, sir?

JUROR: I'm in the process of trying to get hired by a fire department, and I have multiple tests that I need to take to get into the hiring process, and I have until December to get all that done, so...

THE COURT: Are any of those tests scheduled for the next two and a half weeks?

JUROR: They are not, but my EMT license lapses mid December, so I would need to get them done as soon as possible.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you, sir.

29?

JUROR: Hi. On Tuesdays and Fridays, I take care of my granddaughters and my grandson, but it's only one day a week. And we just moved here not too long ago and there's no one else to watch them.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you, ma'am, for letting me know that.

JUROR: You're welcome.

JUROR: I have two jobs, and one will pay me, but they don't have any coverage because I'm a teacher. I'm also a professor at Valencia and there's no coverage, so if I'm out, my afternoon classes won't be covered.

THE COURT: Okay. And how is that going to -- if you were asked to serve on our case, would you be thinking about your kids in Valencia or will you think about what's happening here?

JUROR: Well, I'll be honest with you, I haven't seen my students in a week because of the hurricane, so I'm already thinking about them now.

THE COURT: Fair enough. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

JUROR: Sorry.

THE COURT: No worries. I appreciate your honesty. That's all I asked from you-all and you guys are delivering. I appreciate it.

34?

JUROR: So this fourth quarter is my busiest time of the year. I'm the interim CFO for a construction company. We're going through planning and forecasting and getting ready for board presentation in November. So two and a half weeks of this time would just be right in the midst of my busiest time.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you, sir.

Juror in Seat No. 9, yes, sir?

JUROR: I also have a newborn, a one-week-old, and my wife is a stay-at-home mom.

THE COURT: Congratulations on fatherhood, sir.

JUROR: Thank you.

JUROR: Hi. I'm a teacher and I teach 12th grade, and it's testing season and I really would like to be there to kind of prep them so they can get their diploma and graduate from high school.

THE COURT: Okay. What high school do you teach at?

JUROR: Evans High School.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you. My wife is a teacher, so I appreciate you guys.

24?

JUROR: Yes, Your Honor. I'm a paramedic intern. This is my last semester with all of my final ride-alongs scheduled for the next two weeks.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you.

And 28?

JUROR: Yes. I ama student at Valencia College. I do have class on Tuesdays, so today, at 3 p.m. I had to tell my teacher I couldn't be here today. So if I were to serve on the jury, I would just have to tell my teacher that I wouldn't be able to make it to two and a half weeks of class.

THE COURT: Are you a full-time student, sir?

JUROR: No. Part-time, but it would affect my grade.

THE COURT: Okay. All right. Thank you very much.

Anyone else, other concerns about your ability to serve, raise those paddles.

Are there any full-time students that are here?

Paramedic and your ride-alongs?

JUROR: Yes, Your Honor.

THE COURT: Okay. Thank you, sir.

Anyone else?

And that was Juror No. 24, for the record.

Okay. Can the parties approach for a moment?

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(At the bench.)

THE COURT: I concluded everything for the ability to serve portion, so do we want to go through our cause challenges at this point in time and excuse them and then we can proceed from there?

MR. JAY: Yes. Give them some time and give us some time?

THE COURT: Sure, absolutely. Okay. Very good.

MR. JAY: Thank you.

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